Anyone have experience with Element optics scopes?

Morning.
I have Helix and the Nexus for review.
Now, I was never a scope person, shooting sub 12 out to maybe 30 yards most of my life, the turrets and etchings never really came into play. But, as airguns advanced, we can shoot further, more accurate and all want to hit the bullseye each time....I was dragged a couple of years ago by Matt Dubber into the world of understanding scopes more. Now its fascinating and a lot I still don't understand. BUT, having now purchased most of the known brands $500 and below I am getting an idea. For me, its simple, when I put the scope to my eye the image needs to pop up clear crisp everytime and the turrets when you use them to dial, they have to return to your settings and be accurate, not wobbly or slightly off and I never want to chase zero again. Does the Element scopes do that......yes. Do others also do that.....yes if you're spending $1000 + then yes, but they do leave my Hawkes standing at the back. This is just my experience and I have not finished the video, not finished my conclusions its just what I am finding so far. The Helix is in my opinion the leader now for others to follow. But a scope is a very personal thing. I don't want fog, or wobbly turrets or have to fight to turn the turrets. Never again will I take a quality PCP and put a budget scope on the top. The other person to blame for my new knowledge is Justin at Utah....he also knows his beans and he stood me in the carpark and on 10X made me look through a $250 scope and then a Nightforce the difference was remarkable. So to conclude my ramblings Elements work, but if your lucky to have that budget others will too.

what kind of shooting do you mostly do buckyusn? Do you care much about trying to keep the dreamline as light as possible? What kind of magnification do you normally shoot at? Do you prefer first focal plane or second focal plane scopes?

Sorry for all the questions just want to see if I can help you ?

Giles, thank you for the thorough reply. I look forward to watching your reviews, pros and cons. It will be interesting to hear your comparison of the Element scopes to others you have experience with, as well as the comparison between the Helix vs. Nexus (which really shouldn't be much of a match up, since they appear to be dedicated to different parts of the market).

Tommyj157, right now, I am plinking in my back yard (out to 43 yards comfortably - anything further gets challenging). Outside of plinking, I do go pesting (starlings, sparrows, rats, and Eurasian collared doves). Some of the pesting gets difficult at close range (under 25 yards) once they realize that the dopey looking bald guy walking around with the funny looking stick has something to do with all of their friends "falling asleep."

At times I have to go out further (50 yards is the farthest right now), and the scopes that I currently have are on the lower end. The nicest one I have right now is a UTG 4-16 IR with etched glass reticle (which is a very noticable difference from the other one I have with a wire reticle). It's a sub-$200 scope, and I didn't expect that much performance out of it, but it was topping off a .22cal Discovery (my first PCP).

Now that I have the .25cal Dreamline, I would like to see what it can do. I have that same etched glass UTG scope on top of the Dreamline (I put the wire reticle scope on the Discovery). In the end, my thinking is that if I save my pennies, and spend money on a mid-grade scope (like the Titan or Helix), that might allow me to really enjoy what the Dreamline is capable of (if I can get my abilities to match).

You think that I would know by now...buy once, cry once, but it didn't make sense to put a $500 scope on a $200 Discovery. That equation has changed somewhat, now that I have an airgun that can perform to the level of a $500 (or more) scope.

OK...sorry for the long-winded reply, but I wanted to get you the details behind my decision.

Thank you in advance for any advice/input!

Cheers,
Bill

Have a look at an optisan evx 4-16 very very good scopes for the price.

Bukyusn,
I feel your pain. Difficult to spend more on glass than the rifle costs. Been there a couple times. I have two expensive powder burner with even more expensive glass on top. One has a Leupold the 6.5 creedmoor has a Nightforce. Both started off with cheaper glass. I appreciate that you are careful with your money. I am. Perhaps that is why I have some. All that being said I can tell you I have never been sorry or regretted spending big bucks on quality optics. It is extreme pleasure to have a high quality rifle with great glass on top. The chassis on my Creedmoor cost more than the rifle too. What pure joy to shoot. Worth it. Not uncommon to have the rifle be the least expensive part of the ensemble. If you are not robbing God or your Wife to do it. Go for it and enjoy. My two cents. Bad Shot

Bad Shot,Tommyj,

Thank you both for the replies. I will probably put down some money on better optics, it's just a question of which one. I am learning that (fortunately) there are lots of good value optics out there in my price range ($300-$800). I have been able to wait this long, so I can wait for the review of the Element Titan and Helix.

I will have to get out and try several before I commit (if possible).

Cheers,
Bill