I have asked this before but realised it was mixed in with a long and varied post so thought I'd have more luck putting the relevant bits into the correct parts of the forum.
I have been looking at scopes. Hell of a lot more choice now compared to 35 years ago, (yes I am Jurassic). I have been doing my research and getting up to speed on first and second plane, illuminated reticules and such.
Scope wise I'd like open turrets with a decent click, a hard stop would be a bonus but not essential. Turrets and reticule in MRAD and a side parallax. I think I'd prefer the FFP type but as with the rifle itself I'd try before I'd buy.
The only thing I'm not sure what sort of zoom range to go for. I don't imagine hunting much over 30m with a sub 12, Targets and/or HT/HFT to no more than 50m
The Element scopes do look good, there was also an MTC with a windowed elevation turret that looked quite useful.
I have been looking at scopes. Hell of a lot more choice now compared to 35 years ago, (yes I am Jurassic). I have been doing my research and getting up to speed on first and second plane, illuminated reticules and such.
Scope wise I'd like open turrets with a decent click, a hard stop would be a bonus but not essential. Turrets and reticule in MRAD and a side parallax. I think I'd prefer the FFP type but as with the rifle itself I'd try before I'd buy.
The only thing I'm not sure what sort of zoom range to go for. I don't imagine hunting much over 30m with a sub 12, Targets and/or HT/HFT to no more than 50m
The Element scopes do look good, there was also an MTC with a windowed elevation turret that looked quite useful.
Morning,
Firstly, look through them. A scope can be a very personal thing to the eye.
Once you have looked through them, you will get a feeling - and know what's comfortable.
Myself I have many makes, Optisan, Hawke, MTC, Aztec and now Element - I have to say the Element Helix ( which is not out yet but I have one ) is the best out of all of them. Then Optisan, Then Hawke.
I am making a video on the Helix, for me the glass is clear, the clicks are firm and meaningful and has a zero stop. It works well.
BUT - do look through them, you eye may say no way to the Element and Yes to the Optisan.
G
Firstly, look through them. A scope can be a very personal thing to the eye.
Once you have looked through them, you will get a feeling - and know what's comfortable.
Myself I have many makes, Optisan, Hawke, MTC, Aztec and now Element - I have to say the Element Helix ( which is not out yet but I have one ) is the best out of all of them. Then Optisan, Then Hawke.
I am making a video on the Helix, for me the glass is clear, the clicks are firm and meaningful and has a zero stop. It works well.
BUT - do look through them, you eye may say no way to the Element and Yes to the Optisan.
G
Thank you. Do you prefer first or second plane? Helix is second plane yes?
I thought the titan might be a better option being first plane and 56mm objective. Down side is obviously the price and parallax only goes down to 15yds instead of the 10yds of the Helix and Nexus.
Looking forward to your vid.
I thought the titan might be a better option being first plane and 56mm objective. Down side is obviously the price and parallax only goes down to 15yds instead of the 10yds of the Helix and Nexus.
Looking forward to your vid.
The real advantage to a first focal plane is that your dots of holdover do not change as you zoom in or out. The disadvantage is that your cross hairs can get quite thin and hard to see when zoomed out and can get quite thick and obliterate your x when zoomed way in. Your cross hairs zoom in and out with your magnification adjustments.
Second focal plane your cross hairs remain the same. If you zoom in or out only your sight picture zooms. So calculating dots of drop changes with the zoom.
The advantage of second plane is on high magnification your cross hair thickness remains constant. Hopefully not blocking out your target.
From my understanding the rule of thumb is if you are jumping back and forth at many variable ranges first focal plane is best. If you shoot 100 yards all day second would be best.
Hope this helps
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Second focal plane your cross hairs remain the same. If you zoom in or out only your sight picture zooms. So calculating dots of drop changes with the zoom.
The advantage of second plane is on high magnification your cross hair thickness remains constant. Hopefully not blocking out your target.
From my understanding the rule of thumb is if you are jumping back and forth at many variable ranges first focal plane is best. If you shoot 100 yards all day second would be best.
Hope this helps
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Have a look at these: https://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk/vortex-diamondback-tactical-4-16x44-ffp-non-illuminated-riflescope These have excellent glass for the money and tick most of your boxes, but I'm not a fan of FFP scopes, so if I were you I'd try to get a go with one before you buy one yourself, I've tried a couple and they just don't do it for me as the ones I've treid have been almost unusable when zoomed out which kind of defeats the purpose on having one 
You could also look at the vortex-diamondback-tactical 6-24x-50 FFP,I have one on an AirArms prosport
it goes down to 10yds and works really well.
Go with what Giles said and look through them and decide on what you want yourself.I really like FFP and milrad scopes some people don't
it goes down to 10yds and works really well.
Go with what Giles said and look through them and decide on what you want yourself.I really like FFP and milrad scopes some people don't
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